Subject: silly L/C clauses
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Originally posted by sunnysunshine12 at 2008-5-29 15:12 business forum,trade forum,business opportunity,Business China,Business India,Brazil business4@)e$o9c%k+I3d
I'm a newbie here, so I don't knew how to deal with it. But I gree with lily. If your buyer really want to do business with you. He will consider at your position. I want to ask a stupid question why we can't accept the said clause. Thank you.

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since the docs she asked in those claused are completely unnecessary to be put as negotiable documents in L/C)B*t0V5U%}+X6c
also we are not sure if they will give us those confirmation letter and inspection letter which were required to be signed by their personFOB Business Forum6Q-~:^(?$B
if we accept those clauses, but we cannot get those docs ready by then, we will fail to get our money from bank since our negotiable docs fail to those L/C clauses...





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Originally posted by minzhilong at 2008-5-29 16:20 www.fobshanghai.com+@6p:~#x.B!L9x6n+o9`1^+V
dinah,it's unfair and riskful to do this business with a new customer.7^8D0H0c9~
1. if you can't get the letter of confimation and the inspection certificate on time that mean you can't ensure prepare all the negotiate documents
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in a word you should be careful and make sure you can get the money can you accept this L/C

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6?%E5d"},L0U-h2jyes,dear, thank you for your helpful advices
+{3k `,l5`1K8LFOB Business Forumwe won't accept those clauses even though they said that they wouldn't change the terms for anyone, all of their suppliers must follow those terms and they won't make troubles to their suppliers





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my negotiation

dear Sam,
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re L/C for H246 men's jacket, our bank advised that the clauses you mentioned were your applicant's credit and will only, they cannot handle the L/C with too much silly clauses for us, pls do to talk with your buyer about our below responses exactly:
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1) the L/C opening charges never required to be afford by beneficiary as we all know, all of China suppliers won't afford L/C opening charges, we only afford the ammendent charges caused at our side, this is quite fair for the parties do business together, pls revise this clause;www.fobshanghai.com&o1K&q+H!Z-R9`.@ n

T"v0?1g.l6c9@4Lwww.fobshanghai.com2) re sample letter: you can send your person to check the good in our factory if you don't believe our work, pls confirm a date when you will come to check the goods if you really care about the quality of the goods and really serious about this deal, put sample letter as negotiable docs is completely unnecessary, pls remove this clause;$@$|!J;m8C,h(X6A

+d$b;n-P5k:[&N!_,T [www.fobshanghai.com3) some uncessary documents:business forum,trade forum,business opportunity,Business China,Business India,Brazil business f.l5h1J+X;z"^3K9E)]

1f2f4p,[6]9R3X!`5N2fA. re inspection certificate: what's the complete set of copy documents you are talking about? we cannot get the exact shipping docs (include B/L) on hand till the containers leave from China port, therefor, we cannot control the situation at all after the goods leaving China port, also and you can change your mind at any moment, pls remove this clause;*o!m1b x.H.?;_!c:E"@

9d4D*q9h7u3`/h;rwww.fobshanghai.comB. certificate of weights and measures: i have to say this is unnecessary docs totally, if you really want it, i can make it for you, but pls remove this clause in L/C clauses;
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C. re single or multi-country declaration of origin for fabric and trims origin: all of the fabirc, trims and works have been finished in China, so the Certificate of Origin is proper for your, no single or multi-country declaraton can be provided, pls remove this clause;
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:J6B;r9w!T"C%@%MD. re container load and freight manifest: we don't understand what you want really, but we can anticipate that it is unnecessary for negotiable documents, pls remove this clause;
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$a!]&z&l/cwww.fobshanghai.com4) this is ready-made goods business, it is not quite necessary to do L/C actually, what's worse, you put so many unreasonable claused for this stock under L/C conditions!FOB Business Forum2[(r)b%[$b7Z.K%A,z

'x&n+A B8Z4c#f.bFOB Business Forum5) we will ship the goods in one time, then no need to consider if partial shipment is allowed now;*x9W#j&F8w.}+?
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now, we advice you to pay 30% deposit + total amount for accessories + 70% balance by L/C after revising the L/C as per our request to push this business onwards, we are reliable supplier, we always try to do the work as best as we can and put our buyers'  interests as TOP ONE in our mind, we wish the buyer also can treat us fairly and friendly.
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(L&?)A)V+V9_FOB Business Forumwe need a solution before this Wednesday, since we have another buyer also want to take the goods, we wish you won't make us disappointed on this deal, we even expect to develop more business with you in future..e${!R,j!z
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solve the problem

After talking with the L/C operator in the buying office, I received the below response which said that they will send the revised L/C draft as per our requirement, i wish this is a good beginning for this deal...
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Dinah,
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It was very good talking to u yesterday and I am sure this will strengthen our relation.
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As for LC AS DISCUSSED will work it out and resolve the same.FOB Business Forum/B-^+n*M0V,w:Y9R

%s#C"{*m'[:HBy tom I will give you a clearer lc .
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However I need you to urgently send today if possible itself samples 3 pcs in sz large with as is labels no need to change the labels to our USA office directly to the attn of Neil/Babita.
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Please confirm to me by mail and also give me the awb details to track the same.
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