[experience] sample payment bargaining with a japanese

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%j G{6S&K,t(D-M6D [font=Times New Roman][size=4][color=indigo][i]We talked the products details more happiness at firstly,:)  but when i refer to the sample fee, the japanese began bargaining with me , at last, I told them the sample  payment  would be reback if you  place an order . the  japanese began to emphasize  the free sample before order with chinese is  well-behaved by them. if i'm insist on it , i'll lose the order . it made me so angery,:@ :@ :@  yes, i eager to get this order. otherwise i'll lose my principle, as a chinese principle, I told myself i must calm down first. because this is business .  i told the japanese i can send the free sample to everyone except the japanese. that is my principle. do in Rome as Rome does if you wanna business with us . the free sample no way   .f"W]"D(kA6A
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[font=Times New Roman][size=4][color=indigo][i]After a while, he gave me call that he accept the payment  sample and send the sample to...,just as nothing  happen just now .:lol
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Reply #1 flando's post

oh.lucky monk
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wish you will get the order :victory:

Reply #2 jerry1983's post

am'i like a monk ?3gDiE9J:|0D'Fb3S
:lol

you are something !!!d(f_XP#iyoB

-mz8z}8GB%]e8N P no need to treat janpanses so kindly !

Hope you will get  the order

haha,u did much better than me.
U"Il@/S3^3|j The same situation I met.
S&e*Y`T{ [size=4][u]When I was in the Canton Fair,the Japanese maybe 4 people,we discussed a lot at that time.When I am back,send quotations and email, but I didnot get any reply from them.I made phone calls to their subsidiary in Shanghai and told them I have prepared the samples they need.I ask them for collect account number for samples,but they said their company did accept collect payment just as flando met,that means we have to pay the freight of samples.(Our company rule,we offer samples for free,but freight is to your business.except old repeated reliable clients)Shit,we offer the samples for free and u want to to pay for the freight???Who do u think u are?We are cooperating for the first time,I do not know u either.When I sent email,they didnot reply and I donot know what is wrong.And I made phone calls,every time it cost me a long time to wait for the connection.U think I made telephone calls for free,the time is precious for me too.:@ I doubt whether they want to go on the business or not.damn! We donot need to waste a long time to do useless things since they didnot show any sincerity to do business with us.9nsy:l9n X lsm
finally,we unpacked the prepared samples and didnot email again.Donot even think about it.I donot trust u,Japanese.I'd rather not to do business with u!DAMN![/u][/size]
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[[i] Last edited by jeff008 at 2008-1-15 11:28 [/i]]

How to describe the business relationship with Japanese,maybe it is kanda like the one in China,if you know somebody who knows well of your clients and he/she recommend your products to them,the possibility of getting an order from Japanese co is much bigger .
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Fi%P/]-w As I know,if you have started the business ship with Japanese,and you can keep the quality,it's easy to maintain it for a long period and they only trust the old suppliers,unless some price elements will affect their desicion of choosing factories or supplier company.

I agree,but from the bottom of my heart,I was unwilling to do business with them.5Z\F:lS
profit comes first,I know in the future what I would do.Between business man,interest comes first.
C-H-W{+aCIo Japanese,donesnot matter,profit will tell me to do the right things.haha.
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[[i] Last edited by ritawang1018 at 2007-12-22 18:50 [/i]]

Good cooperation is done on the mutual benefits. Hope bith flando and rita can go well with it.

As for business, no benefit,no cooperation.

We should be Tough when discussing with the customers on business,fN.V _3b(AD
we should keep our prinsiple.:)

Some clients just barging and never order   :@ :@

Reply #7 ritawang1018's post

we are the businessmen,just do as it , we are professional in international trade , we may angery , we may give up order ,but we couldn't lose a principle !:lol :victory:
4Uq+wR$YvZ you are well done !

Reply #8 arfei2002job's post

you are right !
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so it is the reason why they choose us !
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]bacon999[/i] at 2007-12-23 13:39 [url=http://forum.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=3182708&ptid=315568][img]http://forum.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
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Reply #16 -Lazy's post

hi ! newbie !
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We talked the products details more happiness at firstly,:)  but when i refer to the sample fee, the japanese begainning barging with me ,  at final , [color=Red]i told them the sample  payment  would be reback if you are place an order[/color] . the  japanese began to emphasize  the free sample before order with chinese is  well-behaved by them. if i'm insist on it , i'll lose the order . it made me so angery,:@ :@ :@  yes, i eager to get this order. otherwise i'll lose my principle, as a chinese principle, I told myself must calm down it . because this is business .  i told the japanese i can sendthe free sample to everyone except the japanese. that is my prinsiple. do in Rome as Rome does if you wanna b ... [/quote]h0L;x~E3hmzGX
:loveliness: morning,Flado!
%~RA"Eb0ck+z\ you do set a good example for us, as a Chinese.
E/k\7h U JJ especailly , your ability of dealing with the bargin is so strong!:victory:

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I am always have the different trouble from you ....every time ...i asked the new items from the new factory ,they will ask the sample charge ...though our boss is willing to pay it ...but as for me ...i think free charge is my success ...

Reply #19 Winnieo0's post

i can understand what your action . youjust wanna to prove your ability ?
_(cS0O|BEy7^ as a oposite! if you can stand  by factory to thinking !&Vl*MD3nq
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Reply #18 lynn1202's post

yes ! flando has a breave heart!
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there's no discrimination when doing biz. just be kind 2 each other

Reply #22 simondv1601's post

yes ! you are right!:victory:
s'Gz+CA?)x"P8`m6HE we are the professional businessmen !Ifn9wt+j
just do as a businessmen !

Reply #15 flando's post

Which kind of product you are dealing with ?
{E6E/dL;G%c I only know the Japanese are earnest ,meticulous , they cann't accept a little fault ...

Reply #24 Winnieo0's post

solar products ,  we are barging in solar toys !

Reply #20 flando's post

Yes ... sure ... But i think if  i asked free charge samples, we are also have the ability to place the order to them ....

wo, there are so many freigners want to get free samples from China,l`G(V4n|J
they think chinese goods are very very very cheap!9_8S'cD0P
and want to find the cheapest one or free!)EL2E:`[/j5S6X*~

;i/muE:`!F+k!v,d| Maybe our export principle really need adjust,
$d~;JsFA%t we should unify our price and quality!
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In other hand, Japanese are really very strict with the quality of products,
1V])cVI&y.sEb(J maybe that's good for us to cooperate!

Reply #27 bessie-yang's post

you are right !YE$?%}qk4dZt
teacher :lol

no profit,no coopration.of couse.:D 1Lu-|7F s
profit comes first,we want to earn money from Japanese,not to be cheated samples by them.
hl7cN8n-o Tb they didnot show sicerety in going on business ,which makes me angry!!!!!!!!!
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that's right.