What does Made-in-china low price really mean?

[color=Blue][size=2]I made some price check before I quoted our products to the target area.
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2.) the price of our products in South Africa is 5 times higher than our quotation
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w'O&s&?-g1z 3.) the price of our products in EU is 4times higher than our quotation.
wr:[E5T What does Made-in-china low price really mean? It means the price within ONLY China is low and the price in the foreign countries is also high.
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T0YL^kV^ df)t Our customers never tell me that the price of our products is high. Perhaps this is because our products are vehicles or machines.g6y+KA F0g A
So does that mean the low price refer to the low-value products? I always see that salemen in China negotiate for a long time on price in order to get one order. X(Fi'L'}M:t;[

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I should say that low price doesn't mean that our products are low value.It depends on much facts,and we can't change it in a long time.
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C7d `[Y5h#x@d5m'_8J It is a strange phenomenon with Chinese characteristics.All our customers are thinking that they can buy the goods at very low prices,can even be more lower.It seems that they forget that there is always more and more cost on the material.:L
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As ourselves,we sell our products at supposed prices with the standard quality,and we will never move either of them.

MADE IN CHINA means CHEAP,Why?

[b]Why our clients always think that the goods from China is very cheap? If not,then it is not normal.,gOX.C,P
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Because of poor quality,low wages for the workers, cheap raw materials,or many suppliers?
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Because nearly all people in the world suppose that the price of products coming from China should be low, then they can make big profit.
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Chinese products does not mean cheap. It is cheap because all people including Chinese suppose them to be cheap then it is cheap.
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Are they really cheap? Perhaps no. They are sold at high price outside China.

Reply #2 bacon999's post

When I say low-value, I refer to small things like toy, t-shirt, shoes, etc.
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7U0L/Wz+Yf2[Q None of my costomers who want to do serious business say that our price is high. NEVER. Perhaps this is because the price of my products ranges from hundreds to thousands USD.
X%YCp[;\UO We only talk about quality, delivery, after-sale service, spare parts etc./[E$|#y`/Fun
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One joke: Some one asks me: can you send some free samples to me?
O/j%H\D0C They all think that they can get as many FREE sampleS from China as possible, even the value is some hundred USD. Why?
3mq t3p7J2]m I only come to one of such person and I write one- mail with one letter: NEVER!

The middle east countries bought our products first, and we do the quality according to they requirements, they need lower price with bad quality, how can we do?
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Some factories want to do business, so they accept and do it as they like.
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Some reasons come from here, just My Idea.

i think huge population is one of the reason of this matter.ku O^/k?k
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huge population costs low wage,HohVw/zw
wage is one of the important part of the cost
A3rRh%L0W(BBz and also, china is a country full of raw material
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you see it is not because our product is the low-vaule
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however, policy of our government need to be improved too
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the government alway encourages export,but ignores the real profit of the factory.
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I agree on this point,it affects us more or less.

THE MARKET IN CHINA IS VERY COMPETITIVE. THERE ARE TOO MANY EXPORTERS AND FACTORIES, ALL THEY NEED TO DO ORDERS, SO IN ORDER TO GET ORDER, THEY LOWERD THE PRICES. AS THE EXCHANGE RATE IS HIGH UP, THE PRICE IS AS BEFORE, IF YOU WANT TO RAISE THE PRICES, THE CUSTOMERS ARE HARD TO ACCEPT. SO THE PRICE IS LOWER AND LOWER, THE PROFIT IS SMALLER AND SMALLER.I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO BUILD UP OUR OWN BRAND, TO DO OUR PRODUCTS FORM THE LOW GRADE TO MEDIUM GRADE THEN TO INTERNATIONAL BRAND.

Be confident, My friend.

I am export business man from a Ningbo machinery company.
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change and be confident of ourselves, our new time is coming soon,
iY;]3g6d I It is just like the economic cycle: Now that it can come up today, it can go down some day, please try to do more to your business rather than complaining here./T,Y7W-i(J8u-J&L
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What a real buyer cares is not unite price but the product performance and professional service,T!Y,P n$s k T
in general, they do not shift purchase order to any other people who quote a lower price without making sure of their product quality and their reliability.;Ba(GN!x8Q|/V2Z
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wM"a:y [[i] Last edited by  peter-jetstar at 2007-1-22 10:24 [/i]]

it is means the competitive products your have .or the lack of commecial habits

and there are  so many many things  of our chinese bussiness man have  to do

I have already done the signature in my profile.

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please help me!
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Reply #13 Doncloud's post

Now you can see it in your signature place.

we do the business just according to the need of the customer.
'k5gO;qg-g We don't have own stong brand.We can't do our product as the advanced coutries.I.u#~1N4hj`
yeah, we need lots of time and people to do it.
+m+wWZ8c5@Y/e E!@$@ We have nothing to complain.just do you owm business to let your copmpay develop further and stronger then think of sth.

Do not be dismayed!

Cheer up my friend!
Dl'H+H1yN I have signed three contracts after the spring festival, alll of those customers found us in the internet, google, yahoo search engines or b2b site, I perceive that products made in China is really competitive even though the exchange rate is against us, okay, everybody cheer up and find a way to create a new starting point.
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JH,pGn'^9A [[i] Last edited by  peter-jetstar at 2007-3-27 12:47 [/i]]

I think a lot of chinese exporters are take their own advantage mostly
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:)   I hope everybody can find these customer in internet. me too.!f:~ \#Pn$vNb
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*k6~#u;f([U [[i] Last edited by  peter-jetstar at 2007-3-27 12:48 [/i]]

low price ?? low value

I have no doubt that chinese companies are somehow stupid lowing their prices, and lowing products' quality at the same time.7h)c#Z?C ml:H
quality will always be the most competitive factor that good companies find your factory. and that means long-term relationship. $fp,u$r+h^gf
foreingers are never stupid. and most of them care about qulity more than prices if they are realiable customers. I believe that.
0X:]Ta[8SEyU)K I have a question here, I'm not someone important in this factory, how do I tell my boss that we always have to put the quality at the first place, and do I have to since I find some processes are not quite followed by the workers and our boss didn't notice that? I know that'll effect our products' quality.:(

i have a different idea. i think it is our own fault of harmful compitition made this. people just want to sell their products but never consider the whole market our their own brand value.this is a pity for our Chinese manufacture.